Why Truth is important for us to know.

[Angel]

Well this thread has seemed to go OFF TOPIC a bit but it is good none the less.

I got to admit that I am somewhat ashamed to feel a big sense of relief in some ways that I am not the only one that has trouble understanding Dorman at times. I love the guy to be honest , for many reasons, and it seems they are all quite unique from my typical reasons for being fond of people, and that is directly related to the times that I am able to somehow cross the expanse between our communication abilities and grasp what he is able to see and why. There is a beauty and depth coupled at times with a smug and cocky manhood that is very interesting and special. However, it is an extreme amount of work to try to comprehend , although it has proven time and time again that it is very worth it.

Oz said some really good things too , I agree with her and Acolyte as always has been spot on with candor and has a very good grasp on the situation and I truly feel that we all really work hard to respect each other here and that is so very good and that says alot about what we can really do as humans , together. If we remember to be honest and keep egos in check.

I am surprised to say that I am shocked that it appears that Dorman is or has not been aware that he tends to talk on a level that others do not. I mean, I have just assumed that your study of Theosophy has been so successful for you that you left me or us in the dust and see things through off planet eyes. I have approached it from a point that I am the lesser of us and need to try and step up my mental game in order to be qualified to learn from your experience. I don't feel any of us are better than the other, that is not what I mean at all, I am just not as educated nor am I as, well, Theosophical I guess as you are. I try so hard too. Dang it.

There is something to be said about talking to others on their level and now that I am aware PRAISE GOD. lol... that others have trouble too sometimes reaching you on your level, I am really going to be happy about asking you to step down to our level more often. hehe
Kisses .. shew. So no one is picking on anyone, I have no problem admitting my faults and my areas to work on. Trust me I need work... The idea and the joy of our being here with each other is that we learn from each of us and I can tell you honestly, it is hard to respond to a post you can't fully grasp. I would answer so many more posts Dorman if I could grasp it all. I usually get a large portion of it but then there is some portions I did not get and I am afraid those might affect or change the context of the portions I could grasp, so rather than respond and look like a total idiot, I sigh and say nothing . lol

Take for instance the above thread you wrote dated September 16, where you at the end gave me a nice compliment. You know the one where you compared me to an ass. lol. I spent two full days almost trying to understand that post. I learned a lot through the process though about the two words you used that I had never even heard before. Telelogically and Deontological. Who would have thunk that two words would be an entire study in and of itself. Those two words are specific and comprised of a mini course for college credit in my opinion. LOL Yet I still could not be sure at the end of the day if the post was good , bad , a reaming or an exaltation, although I had a full understanding of the two new words added now to my vocabulary. However, sometimes I don't have the time to do all that and really as much as I want to understand , and I really do, it would be great not to have to work so hard sometimes too. You are really quite something special Dorman , its just that well cut us a break and try relating on a level that we can keep up with. If you really did not know this, then it is time to either put down the Theosophy books and grab a good comic for a few months or a playboy even, or you are going to have to give humans up all together before long. Just kidding , but well I'm done.


I just got back and am not feeling 100% yet so please be gentle, I am oh so fragile these days. Truth is good though so I can take it . Truth , what do you know it is still on topic after all. cool beans.
OZ I missed you woman ...

[ozziegem]

Hi Angel Hey Missed you Too, WO men...Sorry to hear you are not 100% ..seems theres a little of that going around at the present ...our other WO man friend is in the same boat .....perhaps we should all sail away in the same Boat together ...Life can be Testing at times ...and aint that the Truth ...

Sail Away Sail Away ...Docptah likes boats too ...time to get back to the cave me thinks ...tra la...

[Rob2010]

An odd thing occurred to me today or was it yesterday? anyway, I was thinking about the position one may take toward corrollary, explaining a galaxy as akin to a cell, a solar system akin to an atom. That would make the Sun akin to a proton, and a planet akin to an electron.

This is something I have believed since childhood, that planets are building blocks of atoms etc, and that perhaps galaxies are cells in some giant body (perhaps a turtle? lol) and that in turn that body is also on a planet which is an electron of a larger atom in a larger cell of another body and so on getting larger and larger like a russian doll. And that maybe the atoms in our bodies, the electons of those atoms have people living on them and in turn those people are made of atoms etc etc.

[Angel]

An odd thing occurred to me today or was it yesterday? anyway, I was thinking about the position one may take toward corrollary, explaining a galaxy as akin to a cell, a solar system akin to an atom. That would make the Sun akin to a proton, and a planet akin to an electron.

This is something I have believed since childhood, that planets are building blocks of atoms etc, and that perhaps galaxies are cells in some giant body (perhaps a turtle? lol) and that in turn that body is also on a planet which is an electron of a larger atom in a larger cell of another body and so on getting larger and larger like a russian doll. And that maybe the atoms in our bodies, the electons of those atoms have people living on them and in turn those people are made of atoms etc etc.

My goodness, I have always thought it a possibility too. Mine not as structured and technical. I had the revelation one day as a child , that perhaps we are merely a cell in the thumb of another giant person. And that we have entire solar systems in our thumbs too. Same idea though. Very cool and most profound , I think.

[Rob2010]

My goodness, I have always thought it a possibility too. Mine not as structured and technical. I had the revelation one day as a child , that perhaps we are merely a cell in the thumb of another giant person. And that we have entire solar systems in our thumbs too. Same idea though. Very cool and most profound , I think.

Right great minds think alike !

[Dorman1]

The only problem with this Angel --and by the way, hi --

An odd thing occurred to me today or was it yesterday? anyway, I was thinking about the position one may take toward corrollary, explaining a galaxy as akin to a cell, a solar system akin to an atom. That would make the Sun akin to a proton, and a planet akin to an electron.

My words above, have been given consideration since I wrote them. I would say the Sun is more akin to a Proton. A planet such as the Terran Planetary Chain, of which this Earth is a singular Globe, and each one of ourselves, I now hesitate to give precise corrollary. I would rather be one who acknowledges the wonder and beauty of the latter, without attempting to precisely define. Of course, this was a momentary feeling. Gone now. hehe.

If you like, I will continue forward concerning what I mean when I say "Terran Planetary Chain". How we speak of this with constraint in the form of using only the number 7. When we could do this same thing using 10, and even 12. But I don't feel like torturing you with boredom. : )

In the previous paragraph, the human is described along similar thought.

[Angel]

Hiya Dorman...

Truth , which this thread is all about.. in my opinion can not be found in the physical plane IF IT is a truth in the areas of philosophy or spiritual matters. These truths are still out there , where they have always been, for us to find, but we will not find them on the physical plane. However, any other truth we need to define , for our physical environment, can be found and is absolute.

Thaat leads me to a discovery ,... if we are to find truth for any question, it requires for us to use so much of our evolutionary skills in the quest. *wow I love epiphany.* In other words, we use decernment skills in what people testify, we draw upon our life experiences, street smarts, mathmatics, deductive reason, intuition, and many other learned and honed skills to lead us throughout a quest in finding truth. Perhaps, this is why there is discrimanation or differences in opinion when it comes to the truth being something we are able to find at all.

Interesting to contemplate. I must say, that my outlook on the Need to have truth has changed since I started this very cool thread. Since that time there has been much growth for me in the understanding of this world and why we are here. Although my soul greatly hungers and thirsts for truth and honesty, and despite wholeheartedly believing that truth can be determined, the passion to have it, has been balanced with a wisdom. The wisdom is simply realizing that we are each on a journey and presently we have come here to learn. Perhaps the truth will be determined for some and not for others for a reason, to help us learn some lesson. Whatever reason , it is now less important to me personally for everyone to have the truth. I still dream of the day when deciet no longer runs the world I live in. For now though, I am who I am, honest and truth seeking... having truth may not be a good thing for everyone, so perhaps the point is then in us seeking it. And why!!!!

Dorman, I would love to hear your thoughts on the chain and the limnmited 7 you mentioned. Open a new thread ok?

[Dorman1]

Dorman, I would love to hear your thoughts on the chain and the limnmited 7 you mentioned. Open a new thread ok?

O KEY DOKEY, and you just keep on telling us about all the evil conspirators out there. First... Look inside your own heart. OK?