Creative Physics

[Acolyte]

Edited as off-topic

[Acolyte]

My own way of looking at stuff like the Kosmos and the Cosmos, in regard to the celestial body line of thought, is twelve. Fourteen is not studied because then I'm looking upon complexity above and below this Realm. In fact, I am not supposed to put a lot of attention to the Five, and simply stick with Seven.

Many might put a bit of attention toward the use of globes of this terran chain, and conclude they are merely symbols for understanding our mundane and abstract psychologies. There is no such thing as completely and utterly dead matter. I was in a bit of an arguement as a third party in regard to' becoming' and 'developing'. The latter had been hastily dismissed, and I remembered the countless contexts the word 'becoming' was used, seemingly repititious or having slightly varying manners of presentation, and almost agreed. But then I remembered the term latent being used repeatedly as well, and 'developing' suddenly acquired importance. Inbetween One and Ten sits a Power, and there is that which sits between a Power and Earth, and there is that which sits inbetween a Power and that which is local to us while simultaneously holding a bit of All Planets, which I could do nothing less than assume informs other Powers.

I must admit, I have read & re-read this & still don't understand it - I feel like I came in to the middle of a conversation or something. Perhaps you could somehow link it into what we were speaking about so I can work with it?

[DocPtah]

Folks... I hesitated to mention this... but upon reflection I decided that really we need to stay a bit more on topic. Admittedly, Creative Physics is a rather BROAD thread. But this "thread" is now up to ten long pages and includes 137 posts (the latter number which interestingly enough is a notable number in physics). Had everything been on topic, there would be no problem... but I suspect some detailed editing would reduce the content to less than half!

On the other hand, this thread... and in fact all of the Halexandria forums... are NOT intended to be therapy sessions. If you're having a bad day, I'm sorry about that... but there is really no justification for bemoaning the fact here. It's rather like going to a movie and suddenly having commercials interspersed. Furthermore, there is on the one hand, the issue of practicing without a license medicine (and/or in other threads, law)... and on the other hand, such diversions becomes unwieldly and irrelevant for the thoughtful pursuit of any topic of discussion. We can assume, for example, that when anyone writes, "I know this is off topic..." then that should be sufficient for them to hit the delete button before sending.

To date, I have not used the "EDIT" button all that much... but I suspect I will be doing so in the near future. I may also go back into time and "clean up" many of the threads that either violated the ground rules... or appear to have been written just to preach... but not to hear any thoughtful response. (And if anyone has some suggestions on specific items that really cry out to be deleted... please let me know. )

Meantime, "be well, do good work, and don't forget to write."

[Dorman1]

My own way of looking at stuff like the Kosmos and the Cosmos, in regard to the celestial body line of thought, is twelve. Fourteen is not studied because then I'm looking upon complexity above and below this Realm. In fact, I am not supposed to put a lot of attention to the Five, and simply stick with Seven.

Many might put a bit of attention toward the use of globes of this terran chain, and conclude they are merely symbols for understanding our mundane and abstract psychologies. There is no such thing as completely and utterly dead matter. I was in a bit of an arguement as a third party in regard to' becoming' and 'developing'. The latter had been hastily dismissed, and I remembered the countless contexts the word 'becoming' was used, seemingly repititious or having slightly varying manners of presentation, and almost agreed. But then I remembered the term latent being used repeatedly as well, and 'developing' suddenly acquired importance. Inbetween One and Ten sits a Power, and there is that which sits between a Power and Earth, and there is that which sits inbetween a Power and that which is local to us while simultaneously holding a bit of All Planets, which I could do nothing less than assume informs other Powers.

I must admit, I have read & re-read this & still don't understand it - I feel like I came in to the middle of a conversation or something. Perhaps you could somehow link it into what we were speaking about so I can work with it?

Well Acolyte, that post was my fooling around. The latest post was an effort towards presenting some basis upon which I might show to some extent, where I'm at. I'm upon an approach to the vastness of life, which submits their is a lay-out or pattern by which the study of Consciousness, Life, Force, and Substance may be followed. In my latest post (not the short one), I was only trying to give a hint as to how I look at the Four mentioned. It's right for me. You give a much better presentation and have the good manners to remain grounded, and I can even picture you as the sort of person who is inoffensive and well liked by most if not all the people who you know.

When you give a presentation, and DocPtah is gracious enough to participate with additions to the thought you present, it is inspirational to me. My hat is off to you both. I didn't plan on submitting anymore posts similar to that last batch of complexity. A theory upon computers with artificial intelligence posits one super-computer might increase in number by recursive engineering, exact replica's with downloaded software, making all these computer's like minded to a very strong degree. We humans can't do that, and any which way we decide to embark upon can only be different due to our subjectivity, as we face objectivity.

I'm leaving this behind. Information on DNA, BEC, fields, holograms, and other creative physics content have been noted. I want to go toward utilization, without getting too spacey, in line with what the Big dog suggests. I do have other studies being neglected. I think DocPtah suggested 10 pages is a good number. Me too.

[Acolyte]

Oh... don't go dorman. It's so nice having this convo. I wasn't being nasty, I was hoping you'd explain what all the numbers mean...? I seem to have offended you. Humble apologies, mate.

I don't think Doc was meaning to limit the pages, just pointing out we should stay on topic.

[Dorman1]

You didn't affect me Acolyte, I am curious as to what you said in your now empty post. I arrived yesterday after it had already been deleted. Actually, Doc pissed me off a bit. He seems like the type of person I would never fire, and even induce him to remain on payroll, but would often have me engaged in transference, like that commercial where the cave man's package doesn't get delivered because the flying dinosaur gets eaten by a bigger flying dinosaur, and he gets fired, so he kicks a small dinosaur after leaving his ex-boss' cave, and then gets stepped on by a big dinosaur. It's always the kind of pissed off that is short-lived. And I write this expecting it to be received by DocPthah as amusing. One does not get seriously angry at a Master. And I don't, only sometimes I pick-up vibrations as if I'm being lasered by a superior, but one too valueable for me to hold onto anything negative.

So the super-cooled sodium gas molecules are opaque, then an initial beam makes it clear so a second beam can pass through it? and going further, removing the first beam traps the second in the cloud of gas, yet, when the initial beam engages it once more, the second beam continues as if it had never been stopped? is there more to that last sentence?

And is it required that the two beams approach at right angles to each other? I know i'm leaning, I should simply go look it up again. While I'm at it, I should see what orthogonal means.

[ozziegem]

I totally agree although not Pissed Off exactly ,,but I would prefer Creative Physics to be left as Is ..
Anyhow it is interesting to Note How Many have been Reading the Thread ..So Why Fix something that is Not Broken .I think The Doc would prefer that we dont fool around with His Creations .either .
Cheers Gem

[DocPtah]

Ozziegem said:

I think The Doc would prefer that we don't fool around with His Creations either.

Are you kidding? You're fooling around like crazy and I love it.

Actually... and don't tell anyone else... the primary reason for Halexandria Forums is to pick Acolyte's brain... and so far it's working beautifully!

[Acolyte]

Ah-HA... I knew it, it's a conspiracy - you're all just here to keep me locked on this planet away from the main thrust of Galactic politics among the sophonts of the Milky Way, of which I am the rightful ruler...

(just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean you're not all after me...)

[terigil2012]

WOW this thread is MONTHS old but I just joined the forum and am quantum surfing through as much as I can. I discovered Halexandria at is almost inception and then diverted to other resources which has brought me back full circle..home sweet home! As to the dialogues of the nature of "All that is" which are wonderful! I came to understand very profoundly..that SOURCE..All that is... is actually a creation of "IS". In other words Source is evolving just as we are through it's individuated expressions of self, to know it's self (very symplified) and experience Ascension back to "ISNESS". There is more to aspire to than " ALL THAT IS", all that "I AM" is all that "IS". This is a dimension far beyond any thing I could study from the mystical texts, ancient scrolls or brilliant postulations of great thinkers. My (can not be proven to any one) knowing came from NDE at a very young age. The journey has been to witness..if you will..the maturing of SOURCE to the evolutionary stage of completing it's self and transcending into the "IS" leaving behind a CLONE/DUPLICATE of sorts...of it's self. Just like Gaia is birthing herself into the higher dimensions. It is the totality of all of the multidimensional, parallel,interdimensional, you name it..individuated expressions coalesced into a cohesive collective of UNITY consciousness capable of being THE ORIGINAL SOURCE experiencing it's self AND it's/our birth into manifestation TO BECOME SOURCE JR. so to speak, for the purpose of SOURCE remembering and reuniting with IT'S creator (as we to do so long for reunion/interpenetration/unity with our creator) and expand into all that "IS". Talk about an EPIC novel..James Mitchner..get outa here!

[Dorman1]

Ozziegem said:

I think The Doc would prefer that we don't fool around with His Creations either.

Are you kidding? You're fooling around like crazy and I love it.

Actually... and don't tell anyone else... the primary reason for Halexandria Forums is to pick Acolyte's brain... and so far it's working beautifully!

Yup, the real arguement, and I didn't think Acolyte could handle the truth (he's upside-down after all!!! how can he handle the truth?! suddenly he would be aware that being on his head is contrary to truth, and then change would occur, and I don't like change) but Doc went and spilled the beans. Now I must witness change throughout the realm, while I must remain the same.

[Dorman1]

Hi terigil2012, I visited here before the forum was created as well. I like to think I've learned a lot in my wanderings, even though I am actually reminded constantly of all the many and varied concepts, thoughts, imaginnings, and even figures of speech I am lacking. I estimate my study could last my entire life, and I would never exhaust the Source. That last statement in fact, is an easy to reach conclusion. Maybe Will is somewhere down the brain-stem, but once there I don't feel like a player. So I'm here. I like to exhibit to all how limited I am, and bad. but only the harmless form of bad.

[ozziegem]

HI Terrigil 2012 .....I like it .Many a channel is on this Wave
.Cheers Gemsta

[ozziegem]

[quote][/of "All that is" which are wonderful! I came to understand very profoundly..that SOURCE..All that is... is actually a creation of "IS". In other words Source is evolving just as we are through it's individuated expressions of self, to know it's self (very symplified) and experience Ascension back to "ISNESS". There is more to aspire to than " ALL THAT IS", all that "I AM" is all that "IS". This is a dimension far beyond any thing I could study from the mystical texts, ancient scrolls or brilliant postulations of great thinkers. My (can not be proven to any one) knowing came from NDE at a very young age. The journey has been to witness..if you will..the maturing of SOURCE to the evolutionary stage of completing it's self and transcending into the "IS" leaving behind a CLONE/DUPLICATE of sorts...of it's self. Just like Gaia is birthing herself into the higher dimensions. It is the totality of all of the multidimensional, parallel,interdimensional, you name it..individuated expressions coalesced into a cohesive collective of UNITY consciousness capable of being THE ORIGINAL SOURCE experiencing it's self AND it's/our birth into manifestation TO BECOME SOURCE JR. so to speak, for the purpose of SOURCE remembering and reuniting with IT'S creator (as we to do so long for reunion/interpenetration/unity with our creator) and expand into all that "IS". Talk about an EPIC novel..James Mitchner..get outa here!
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Thanks Terrigal ..You Are akin ....May I add though ....I am Also what I Am Not !!!!

But with creative physics ....we are always Becoming Then ?

And Yes we do so LONG for reunion /InterPenetration / and Unity .
It IS All it IS {note the Italics} just playing with letters and words here.

Anyway My feable attempt once again to get back on the Track........So those who read and understanding the meaning will not get completely Lost ....and some must be reading cos last tome I popped in here the tally was 2009.{any guesses Why I remember the count.

Tally Ho fellow Co creators ...be careful what you Manifest ..we may find , we conjur the Is as we would rather it Not to Be ...Because All Does EXIST... Imagine the unimaginable ......Image is Every thing ..apparently.

Gemstar

[Acolyte]

WOW this thread is MONTHS old but I just joined the forum and am quantum surfing through as much as I can. I discovered Halexandria at is almost inception and then diverted to other resources which has brought me back full circle..home sweet home! As to the dialogues of the nature of "All that is" which are wonderful! I came to understand very profoundly..that SOURCE..All that is... is actually a creation of "IS". In other words Source is evolving just as we are through it's individuated expressions of self, to know it's self (very symplified) and experience Ascension back to "ISNESS". There is more to aspire to than " ALL THAT IS", all that "I AM" is all that "IS". This is a dimension far beyond any thing I could study from the mystical texts, ancient scrolls or brilliant postulations of great thinkers. My (can not be proven to any one) knowing came from NDE at a very young age. The journey has been to witness..if you will..the maturing of SOURCE to the evolutionary stage of completing it's self and transcending into the "IS" leaving behind a CLONE/DUPLICATE of sorts...of it's self. Just like Gaia is birthing herself into the higher dimensions. It is the totality of all of the multidimensional, parallel,interdimensional, you name it..individuated expressions coalesced into a cohesive collective of UNITY consciousness capable of being THE ORIGINAL SOURCE experiencing it's self AND it's/our birth into manifestation TO BECOME SOURCE JR. so to speak, for the purpose of SOURCE remembering and reuniting with IT'S creator (as we to do so long for reunion/interpenetration/unity with our creator) and expand into all that "IS". Talk about an EPIC novel..James Mitchner..get outa here!

Perhaps it is 'Source is evolving just as we are because we are it's individuated expressions of self, to know it's self'

Mostly I agree with your view of what might be. I look at who we are & imagine how the aspects I see in us my be translated back to Source (I call it, 'The ALL') I also see the path as growth for The ALL, just as I see our purpose is to learn & grow in Knowledge until we can return to ALLness & add Knowledge to Awareness.

I think (to return to the OP) the Creative Physics is possible because how we Imagine the Reality is how it becomes. I see it a little as each Life having a sphere of its Reality around it. Each PoV has a slightly different sphere & where they overlap in any number, we have what is called Concrete Reality.

It is possible that when groups get together & entwine their paths & PoV's, they create a slightly less solid 'Reality' within which their expectations come true. They may even (as mentioned in other posts of mine) create a combined Field of Beingness, what Rupert Sheldrake calls a Morphogenetic Field, which can then start to develop the group, altering it to better fit the new environment it is creating

It is possible that when this happens, there is a reaction to it from the 'normal' Morphogenetic Field - thus we get such abreactions as Waco, or the apparent insanity of Jonestown. Many people like to join groups - by making themselves a part of such, they then get to see themselves as 'Special' & above the rest of us poor 'common' types. But groups are dangerous to growth - to be in one, one has to surrender a small (or large) piece of Selfness, & usually suspend rational thinking so as to allow the dogma & beliefs of the group to be the forefront of one's existence.

Mob Rule is a very real experience - I have been in crowds of 100,000+ & I've felt the inarticulate power of the beast - it takes major effort to get out of the focus of it & remain oneself, able to think & reason so as not to simply blindly follow the dictates of the group.

Creative Physics is never (I can't think of exceptions) a thing of groups. Groups do not advance, they create a common ground & then act as self-controlling entities to ensure that anyone trying to alter the group-think is swiftly drawn back into the group.

New thought, creative thought & advancement, comes from not listening to the fairytales of the past, but rather from taking what is known & exploring beyond it all. This can only be done by those who don't bother with the lengthy explanations found by those without a real view of the world & who delve into the structure in a clear & focussed way.

The ability to leave the dross behind, to shrug off the rambling creeds of the superstitious & to find clear & concise ways to structure what might be known is the hallmark of the truly creative. The random parrotings of ancient dogma will never lead to wisdom, nor even to a clear path - if it did, those who originally designed such triteness would have blazed a path for the rest of us - strangely, apart from the mythical biblical figures for which we have no evidence, there are no reported trail blazers among the structured cults & sects & our creative 'Physics advances one funeral at a time.' (Max Planck quote - although I think he said 'Science')